Iunno dude. I mean, if it weren't for the stimulus plan, I wouldn't be able to ride the train to work and back because MARTA would have stopped running and such. Well, that or they would have hiked prices. So for me I've seen a positive outcome in my daily life for this.

And yea no one's denying that we're in the shit. I've also seen the threads on N/U about people losing jobs. Even my mom got laid off a couple months ago and hasn't been able to find a steady job since. (She's doing temp work.) I just haven't complained because I still have a job and so does my dad and brother so we're still okay.

As for govt. involvement in the private sector... I'm not sure where you're going with this. Did you want GM to fold?